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Poster: ice9freak Date: Apr 25, 2011 12:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Ratdog?

So, I'm wondering what the general opinion of Ratdog is here at the forum. I'm listening to 8/9/95 today (http://www.archive.org/details/rd1995-08-09.dsbd.flaschner.flac16) and find myself pleasantly surprised. Wasserman sounds especially "on." Beyond seeing them in '96 (I don't remember much...), listening to the bits of the studio album included on the Weir Here compilation, I don't have much knowledge. Any show/recording recommendations would be appreciated.

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Apr 25, 2011 3:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ratdog?

My favorite lineup was
10/29/98-12/2/99
Bob Weir
Jay Lane
Rob Wasserman
Dave Ellis
Jeff Chimenti
Mark Karan

http://www.archive.org/details/rd1999-11-26.aud.stephens.76517.sbeok.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details/ratdog1999-11-06.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details/rd1999-11-28.aud.2262.shnf
http://www.archive.org/details/rd1999-11-04

& here's an all-star band that's Ratdog-gish (as in Lilian...)
Phil Lesh and Friends
Fillmore - San Francisco, CA
8/7-8/98

Phil Lesh - bass, vocals
Bob Weir - guitar, vocals
Steve Kimock - guitar
Jeff Chementi - keyboards
Dave Ellis - sax, vocals
Prairie Prince - drums
http://www.archive.org/details/paf1998-08-07.akgC61.cooper.miller.109282.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details/paf1998-08-08.akgC61.cooper.miller.109283.flac16
Hope that this is to your liking,
Peace

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Poster: cb18201 Date: Apr 26, 2011 8:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ratdog?

best show i ever saw them play was 11/9/2008 at the klein theatre in Bridgeport, CT. it was broadcast on sirius so maybe they put in a little extra mojo. either way it was a really good show.

http://www.archive.org/details/rd2008-11-09.nak300.johnD.95911.flac16

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Apr 26, 2011 7:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ratdog?

The early Ratdog I heard , somehow, did not impress me . when Phil got his "Quintet"going, I was a Phil guy . Strangely , it was the tour with Kimock ( 07 ) that made me realize how really good Ratdog had become . So I went back and started listening to a bunch of the RD shows . Though I still, think P+Fs was the better outfit ( John Molo !), there are times I think Ratdog was equal, if not more inspired .
One of the downsides of "The Dead", and "Furthur", has been fewer shows/tours . With RD and P+Fs ,we got X2 shows ! 2 bands , instead of 1 .
It's funny, many of the things that can annoy me with Bob's GD performances, are absent with Ratdog .

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Poster: wineland Date: Apr 25, 2011 12:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ratdog?

I saw them at the Roseland in Portland for the shows they later released Ratdog - Live at Roseland (http://www.rat-dog.com/cds/). Must have been decent shows if they released them. April 25th is a SBD and April 26 is a AUD. Take a listen for yourself. I was impressed at the time but haven't heard it since. Nice walk down TDIratdogH.

http://www.archive.org/details/rd2001-04-25.sbd.112204.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/rd2001-04-26.shnf

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Poster: doug_the_dude Date: Dec 24, 2012 10:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ratdog?

Saw both of these shows as well; it was a really fun couple of nights, and I think everyone was absolutely impressed and surprised with how well Bobby brought it to the table.

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Poster: portmcgroin Date: Apr 25, 2011 7:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ratdog?

I saw this show in Albany and was impressed. http://www.archive.org/details/rd2007-11-03.km184.flac16
I prefer this show over the Dead and Furthur shows that I have seen. I Love the sax and having Mr Kimock sit in helps. check out the Estimated - stuff

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Apr 25, 2011 8:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ratdog?

Thanks to everyone for the links thus far. I really enjoyed the second half of 8/9/95 and it's nice to see all of these recc's--I'll be busy for awhile. :) :) :)

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Poster: user unknown Date: Apr 25, 2011 2:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ratdog?

8/9/95 proves Bob is capable of putting his heart and soul into his playing

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc281/DarkStar1953/img228.jpg

Between "Throwing Stones" and Wasserman's "Amazing Grace" bass solo, this is a beautifully brutal,or is it brutally beautiful show.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Apr 25, 2011 8:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ratdog?

http://www.archive.org/details/rd1995-08-09.dsbd.flaschner.flac16

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Poster: Skobud Date: Apr 26, 2011 12:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ratdog?

I just now read this for the first time and I am a little suprised. Im one of the few here who would tell you to pony up the dollars and go see Furthur...Now, with that being said i will tell you that Ratdog easily puts on the worst show out of the present GD spinoffs. Phil and Friends can be good to very good and the same goes for Furthur imo. Ratdog blows. I ve seen them three times and all three times I thought it was subpar - kinda Bob just going through the motions. Im sure my feelings reflect many others feelings about Furthur. I would never ever pay to see Ratdog again. Furthur yes and Phil and Friends yes and even DSO yes. Ratdog no!

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Apr 25, 2011 8:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Ratdog?

Great choice iceman, check out Rob's solo on "Eternity!"

Inspired evening indeed!